M210 or M180

[Philipp76]

Hi together. I need french help. I have bought a french firefighter midliner with a double cabin. There is M210 sign on each side. But in the papers there is:
Moteur MIDR060226V Version 30 -34-40
cylindree: 6174
129kw

And that is Not a M210 But a M180.
I am confused.
Can anybody explain it to me?

I thought i bought a M210!!

Thank you. Greetings from Germany.
Philipp

[Angoumois]

Hi Phillipp,

Can you send us photos of your papers ?
Do you have an engraved metal plate in front of your truck behind the radiator grid ?
Sometimes there are informations on it.

[Loïk79]

Hi Phillipp,

Can you send us photos of your papers ?
Do you have an engraved metal plate in front of your truck behind the radiator grid ?
Sometimes there are informations on it.

Hi Philipp,

Angoumois is right, the best way is to check the label first.
My M210 has an engine MIDR06.02.26 "ACE" W41 and the power is about 209 HP.
I know that this engine can be fitted both on M180 and M210. The power is mainly 175CV / M180 and 205CV / M210 but there's some exception.
Xavier-64 can clarify it for sure.
The table below is maybe not 100% reliable... it shows the engine capacity mooving from 6174 ccm to 6180 but mine is 6177 according the ower manual...

M 180.10/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.11/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.11/C SP, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.12/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.12/C, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 180 CV
M 180.12/C BTP, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.13 SP, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.13/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.13/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.13/C, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.13/C, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 180 CV
M 180.13/C, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 180 CV
M 180.13/C BTP, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.15/D, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.15/D, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.15/D, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.15/D, Année de construction 10.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 180 CV
M 180.15/D BTP, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.16/D, Année de construction 11.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 175 CV
M 180.16/D, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 180 CV
M 200.10/C, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.12/C, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.13/C, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.13/C, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.13/C, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.14/C BOM, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.14/C CIT, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.15/D, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.15/D, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.15/D, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.15/T, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6180 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.16/D, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.16/D, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6178 ccm, 196 CV
M 200.16/T, Année de construction 05.1988 - 03.1993, 6180 ccm, 196 CV
M 210.12/C, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.13/C, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.13/C, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.13/C SP, Année de construction 05.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.14/C BOM, Année de construction 05.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.14/D, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 209 CV
M 210.15/D, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.15/D CIT, Année de construction 05.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.16/D, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.16/D, Année de construction 05.1992 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 205 CV
M 210.16/D, Année de construction 05.1996 - 01.2000, 6180 ccm, 209 CV
M 210.16/D CIT, Année de construction 05.1992 - 10.1996, 6174 ccm, 205 CV

Have a look on this Forum BMH rules : I believe that french writting is mandatory. Maybe that's a best way to write a "bad" french translation via google in order to get more replies from us.

Good luck

[Loïk79]

Just found an old post from Xavier-64 below :
viewtopic.php?t=10560

"Moteur MIDR 060226 et ses variantes...

M150 => MIDR 06.02.26 U => 159 CV
M180 => MIDR 06.02.26 V => 175 CV =>
M180 => MIDR 06.02.26 V/41 => 180 CV => Euro 2
S180 => MIDR 06.02.26 V => 175 CV
S180 => MIDR 06.02.26 V/41 => 180 CV => Euro 2
G190 => MIDR 06.02.26 L => 190 CV => A vérifier
M200 => MIDR 06.02.26 H => 196 CV
M210 => MIDR 06.02.26 W => 205 CV
M210 => MIDR 06.02.26 W/41 => 209 CV => Euro 2
S210 => MIDR 06.02.26 W => 205 CV
S210 => MIDR 06.02.26 W/41 => 209 CV => Euro 2
S220 => ? =>
M230 => MIDR 06.02.26 X => 226 CV
G230ti => MIDR 06.02.26 D => 226 CV
M240 => ? =>
M250 => MIDR 06.02.26 Y/41 => 250 CV => Euro 2"

According that table, your truck could be a M180... I understand you are confused...

In addition, "version 30 -34 -40" corresponds to the front / rear axle distance 3050mm / 3400 mm / 4000mm, but not link with the engine.